|Архив UANIC WG,
24 червня 2001 року
|Відкритий лист-відповідь щодо
публікації видавиництвом Wired.com статті про стан домену .UA
Ниже копия письма, которое было направлено мной как общественный
комментарий к публикации:
Оставить эту статью без комментария нельзя.
Вся информация размещенная мной в ответе полностью соответствует
ранее принятым официальным решениям Ассоциаций, включая совместное
Решение АУРИУ и ИНАУ от 22 июня. Изложенное в этом комментарии также
не противоречит целям действующей администрации домена .UA. Различные
пути достижения лучшего результата не должны быть "яблоком
в украинской части Интернет, и тем более отрицательно сказываться
На сегодняшний момент в действиях различных сторон, активно
участвующих в процессе реформирования присутствует много эмоций
Однако, обращаю Ваше внимание на то, что в настоящее время к Украине
приковано огромное внимание международной общественности, в том
и специалистами ICANN. Любые деструктивные действия сторон в вопросе
реформирования домена и внутренних отношений Интернет сообщества
Украине отрицательно сказываются на международном имидже Украины
мнении о нас, как о цивилизованной стране.
Я обращаюсь к Вам с просьбой быть более терпимыми и взвешенными
своих решениях и высказываниях по отношению к друг другу, будь мы
оппоненты или единомышленники.
О том, как сегодня будет решаться вопрос реформирования
администрирования домена .UA, - о нас в последствии еще долго будут
говорить как о стране.
Я глубоко убежден в том, что через некоторое время всеми участвующими
сторонами, включая действующую Администрацию домена .UA, и как
коллективного органа и как лично Д.Кохманюка и И.Свиридова, будут
достигнуты разумные решения.
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> Dear author of the article,
> It is important that you know that your article may play definite
> negative role in positive changes that are taking place in
> Ukrainian Internet market in connection with re-orginisation
> .UA domain administration.
> Although you used real facts and refer to real persons, the
> presentation of the situation is very biased.
> The unsatisfactory situation with domain name registration
> understood in 1998. Since that time there have been numerous
> attempts to change the out-dated domain name registration practice
> cooperate with current domain administration on related issues,
> it met uncovered unwillingness to cooperate and to make any
> When the situation with incorrespondence of Ukrainian domain
> registration practice to international practice became clear
> Ukrainian Government, the State Committee on Information Security
> made a move to initiate/start a process on reformation of domain
> registration in .UA. It succeeded to bring all main players
of the Internet
> market in Ukraine to talk to each other. These first steps
> September-October 2000.
> The turn point in sequence of events was when Ukrainian Government
> on March 15, 2001 sent the letter to ICANN about starting preparation
> period for official re-delegation of the .UA administration.
> that time was marked up with deep consensus building processes
> government, ISPs and other players of the Ukrainian Internet
> The Initiative/Working Group to coordinate development and
> been established. Two newly founded Associations representing
> industry and Governmental Committee signed Conciliation agreement
> about accepted/needed re-organisation of the .UA administration.
> essential to stress that the letter to ICANN _became_ possible
> because of the consensus built between active negotiating and
> Note. All events and documents referred to in my comments can
> found at the official site of WG http://www.ua-nic.net
> However, since the moment that the vision of inevitable changes
> became obvious, the resistance of amorphous (and feeling as
> "technical enthusiasts" running current domain registration
> infrastructure in Ukraine changed from passive to active. These
> changes found support from current domain administrators one
of which is
>Dmitry Kohmanyuk interviewed in your article.
> Such behavior was found as negative and destructive by both
> Associations and Governmental Committee.
> I don't deny difficulties and problems in my country but still
> that article is rather non-objective and biased and contains
> and over-simplified presentation of real processes in Ukraine.
> Giving this as my personal vision that may be followed by official
> note from authorised Governmental body of Ukraine, I would
like to state
> the following:
> 1) the Ukrainian Internet industry (which is represented by
> other players) is matured enough to decide how to manage its
> domain, and it's authority has been recognised by government
> 2) Ukrainian Government and State Committee on Information
> (which is intentionally mixed with SBU) had _initiated_ the
> of reformation of the .UA domain administration and is doing
> _respect_ to Internet community in Ukraine;
> All process has been doing with complete openness and in
> correspondence with ICANN and ccTLD/DNSO recommendations
> and international practice - see the official site http://www.ua-nic.net
> 3) it is very tendentious to present situation in the country
> respect to advanced (in the country) Internet community and
> in such a simplified way as it is done in the article;
> It would be _naiive_ to believe that in dispute about domain
> re-organisation in Ukraine (country with population of 50 mln.
> strong Internet and telecommunication industry) only two actors
> Dmitry Kohmanyuk and SBU are playing :-) main roles. So, I'll
> that you will find time and have a look at the official WG
> pointed above to know more about processes in Ukraine taken
to attention of
> your readers in your article.
> 4) It appears non-consistent and offensive to Internet community
> Ukraine to refer first to sources outside of country instead
> providing objective information.
> All involved parties both from ISPs side and from Government
> enough knowledge and experience for acting in correspondence
> International practice and specific conditions of Ukraine.
> I apologize for these extended comments, but intention is to
> some sensitive issues in the process that goes slowly, with
> difficulties but with the intention to solve the problem irreversible.
> I would be ready to answer all your questions and provide you
> all necessary information and hope on your further objective
> similar topics.
> Yours faithfully,
> Yuri Honcharuk
> Expert of UANIC WG
> P.S. Quotation below is for reference if necessary.
>> Ukraine's Domain in Dot-Dispute
>> By Julia Barton
>> 2:00 a.m. June 22, 2001 PDT
>> Dot-ua is a domain in search of a master.
>> Stepping into the breach is Ukraine's successor to the
as the SBU, which said recently
>> that it will take over the top-level domain name.
>> Dmitry Kohmanyuk, who runs the domain with a group of volunteers
>> U.S. and Ukraine, says he wants to give up the responsibility,
>> to a service "based on the Internet principle of nondiscrimination,
>> open to everybody." He doesn't believe the SBU is
such an entity.
>> If the Ukrainian government presses its case, it could
>> test for the still-evolving rules for administering country-code,
>> top-level domains, or ccTLDs. Guidelines drafted last year
>> government's wishes with respect to a ccTLD must be given
>> weight" but that "it is equally important to
shield a ccTLD manager
>> shifting political winds."
>> Gennady Pritsker, secretary of the International Association
>> Level Domains -- who helped draft those guidelines -- admits
>> way of enforcing the key principle, that governments should
>> "integral part" of the Internet community, not
>> Although contracts for administering top level domains
are held by
>> ICANN, the Ukrainian government could take over dot-ua
if it really
>> wanted to, Pritsker said.
>> "The government is a sovereign entity, so who's to
stop them? ICANN
>> private California corporation; they're not going to summon
>> guard to Ukraine," he said.
>> Neither Kohmanyuk nor SBU have appealed to ICANN, but if
>> will be hard for ICANN to make a decision," said Esther
>> former chairwoman and an investor in the Russian and Eastern
>> Internet. A spokeswoman for ICANN said the corporation
>> judgment until approached.
>> "The post-Soviet mentality is quite straightforward
>> control," said Ivan Lozowy, director of the Institute
>> Democracy in Kiev. "In a country where the rules are
>> established and the situation is wide open, it is natural
>> much as possible."
>> But this particular grab comes at a time when the Internet
>> increasing role in the country's political life.
>> But many Ukrainian companies can't afford the fees, Kohmanyuk
>> Right now dot-ua registration is free, though Kohmanyuk
>> see the domain name run by a nonprofit that only charges
>> few administrative salaries.
>> Kohmanyuk says government security forces should have nothing
>> the venture. He's confident that the SBU will give up its
>> saying the agents he's met don't understand how the Internet
>> governed, much less how to administer a top-level domain
>> "They want us to give this all to them ... it's pathetic,"
>> said. "It's like someone asks to drive your car, and
>> know where the steering wheel is."
>> But the SBU's deputy for technological systems, Valery
>> the issue is a political one.
>> "If the maintenance of the dot-ua domain is disrupted,
>> simply cease to exist for the outside world," he said
>> "There would be nowhere to send mail."